Dear Jim Guthrie

by Matthew Diehl on May 4, 2010

Dear Jim Guthrie,

Thank you for your contact form spam but, honestly, are you some kind of complete idiot?

This is a blog about search engine marketing and mostly SEO. So, if I really wanted it to rank I would have look no further than myself for help with the website.

It is time to reconsider you client acquisition strategy when you are trying to persuade other SEOs to give you work. This must be the most idiotic email I have ever received. See below:

Also, way to send me a personalized message really proving that you are a hard working SEO when I can find your exact same massage as comment spam on other websites.

You are exactly the type of “SEO professional” that gives our industry a tarnished reputation. Do everyone a favor and just stop! Don’t just stop the emails, stop attempting to be something you are clearly not.

That is all.

Matthew Diehl

P.S. Get a fucking clue.

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Aaron May 4, 2010 at 12:06 pm

Well said, Matt. The really bad part is when your clients forward you these emails asking if we should “give this a try”. Okay, that’s only happened once — but it was from a client who had been sitting on my SEO recommendations for 6 plus months… Oh brother.

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matthewdiehl May 4, 2010 at 3:22 pm

Aaron – should have told them to go for because I doubt they would have done it anyways!

Scumbags are hiding around every corner trying there best to take advantage of anyone they can, really is a shame it is all over in our industry.

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pageoneresults May 5, 2010 at 11:29 am

Thank you for posting this information. We’ll be adding it to our expanding coverage of NationalPositions.com and their network of SEO Affiliates. http://www.SEOConsultants.com/National-Positions/
.-= pageoneresults´s last blog ..National Positions SEO Affiliates Exposed! – Top-Web-Business.com =-.

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Kev Strong May 6, 2010 at 2:32 am

I get these so often it’s unreal. We actually educate clients about these types of emails when we start contracts with them as 9/10 the client will only ask further down the line.

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pageoneresults May 6, 2010 at 12:40 pm

We’re going to get heavily involved with this one. The scale of the National Positions (NationalPositions.com) form spam is off the charts. We’ve got Sting operations going as I type this, you’re welcome to join us!

http://www.seoconsultants.com/national-positions/email-sting

You can find National Positions on Twitter @Natl_Positions and @ppcguru < Send them both a Tweet and let them know how you feel about their aggressive SEO form spamming techniques.
.-= pageoneresults´s last blog ..SEO Outsourcing – Why Would You Outsource SEO Offshore? =-.

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matthewdiehl May 6, 2010 at 12:52 pm

@pageoneresults – brilliant! I will see what I can come up with. Will keep you posted on how far I got with them and all docs/info.

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Erickson Swift / Swiftek May 15, 2010 at 1:14 pm

National Positions is STILL at it! The same canned form submissions are coming in to all our sites on a regular basis. They have begun to keep track of those of us who are “baiting” them with this sting operation, so it is becoming more difficult to trick them into identifying themselves.

We too are taking this on as a large consumer protection project and will work hard to acquire proof of their crimes.

Our ultimate goal is to convince Go Daddy (their web services provider) to terminate them according to their published terms of service. It would be great to actually get the US government to charge them under the law, but that seems almost too good to hope for.

Don’t think for a minute that these evil people have backed off. They don’t care what we think or about their public reputation, and will fight to the last man. Lets give them a fight that will leave a lasting mark on their bottom line! Good luck!

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matthewdiehl May 18, 2010 at 3:31 pm

@Erickson Yeah, I tried to bait them in the sting operation but no dice. Hopefully someone has some luck and we can come up with some additional ammunition that can be taken to GoDaddy or whomever to get them to stop the bullshit and shut them down.

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Erickson Swift / Swiftek May 18, 2010 at 4:45 pm

I learned that the Indian ISP where most of the initial contacts originate (Airtelbroadband), is now on IronPort’s blacklist, and the common body strings are being blocked by Go Daddy’s in-house filters. So, the IPs, domains and now the very content of these messages is getting hammered at every turn, which hurts National Positions properly, but also our sting ops. Since Gmail is so quick to exterminate any referenced acct, speed is of the essence. The sooner we set the hook, the better chance it will work. On the other side of it, if we can’t contact them, the suckers they prey on can’t either.

The good news is that I have Go Daddy finally listening (no really), so we may yet get some relief (not holding my breath). Blogs like this may help. I have 2 baits already in the bag, so if anyone wants to add theirs, message me via my site.

For those still following the righteous path, don’t be tempted by the dark side! Goodness is good, full stop. All White-Hats go to cyber-heaven.

Someday, I hope to meet a National Positions officer face to face… some day…

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debby topliff June 17, 2010 at 8:54 am

I’m just a tiny business but got this jim guthrie email offer today. I tried to find HIM on the internet but his ranking doesn’t seem to exist. All I found was your blog. I appreciate you taking the time to expose what appears to me to be a “higher” form of spam. I use a Mac and get hardly any spam. Now I know to watch out for this type of solicitation.

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matthewdiehl June 17, 2010 at 9:29 am

Debby – It really is a shame that these emails continue to go out. Please do not hold it against the SEO community as a whole, there are far more good eggs than bad.

If you would like more information about the company behind the emails, please visit http://www.seoconsultants.com/national-positions/. It is an expose on the company and more information for you so you can avoid the company as a whole.

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Jeff September 17, 2010 at 8:26 am

Here is the newest one that I just got from them,

Company: Marketing Company
Name: Janice Jacobsen
Email Address: jimguthrie14@gmail.com
Website:
Address:
City:
State:
Zip Code:
Phone: 000-000-0000
Fax:
Questions/Comments:
I’ve helped hundreds of companies increase their traffic and I’d love to show you what my service can do for you. I don’t promise the world, I’m straight forward and to the point … I deliver rankings. My rates are completely affordable and I don’t want to oversell you either, I start small and have my clients begging for more. I won’t take on your site unless I know I can deliver rankings. Reply to this e-mail if you have the slightest interest …
you’ll never see rankings the same way again.

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James September 29, 2010 at 12:26 am

High-five!

I just received an email from them and having noticed the Gmail address and no website attached to poke around at, I looked into it. My favorite flavor of spam is spam that doesn’t pay attention to who they’re spamming.

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John Slimak October 29, 2010 at 1:34 pm

I feel the same way. I just got 4 emails for 4 of my sites and what a waste of time and energy. Sad part there are people who fall for this email and waste the money!

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Fadi November 10, 2010 at 6:54 pm

Man I agree that scum back does not stop harassing us hiding under different names … must be an unsuccessful man to have the time to go around fill in forms asking to do SEO for SEO companies

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Joy January 3, 2011 at 8:11 pm

Here it is a New year and the spamming has begun. I am at least smart enough to check things out when someone puts themselves in my e-mail box. Haven’t they ever heard of Google?????Hummm. I guess I need not say more! Thanks for the posts and keeping it real out there. That is the purpose of blogs! Thanks again! Joy

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Alan February 24, 2011 at 12:43 pm

I just got an email from the guy too, only under the name of “Janice Jacobsen,” and the phone number he had listed, was my office’s fax number! So decided to look him up to see if he had any substance.

This blog was the highest rank page under “jim guthrie seo.” You know you have a seo guru out there when he can’t even rank #1 for his own name! Come on….. My advice would be to hire someone else for your seo help besides Janice Jacobsen or Jim Guthrie

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FreeNFullDownloads March 4, 2011 at 5:24 am

Hey! I just such an email from this guy. I Googled his email ID and found your site. You treated this spammer very well ;)

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West Coast Swing Sweden April 16, 2011 at 6:53 am

Annoying guy this… Can someone make “him” disappear or something… Hack him or whatever.. Get mails, over and over again…

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dotCORD April 20, 2011 at 1:58 am

We just got a a similar email today. Found your site while googling the email ID. Indeed enjoyed reading your article :)

We have linked back to this article from http://blog.dotcord.com/2011/04/20/beware-of-spammers/

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Tim June 2, 2011 at 6:52 am

I just received the same email. Google’d “jim gutherie seo” and this post was number one :)

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Claire Boyles June 4, 2011 at 6:03 am

just received a mail from him too, curious on how he came across my website to spam me, I Googled too, and came here.

Thanks for writing this blog post, it will help people who have a bit of common sense (those that Google to research people before they buy).

:)

Is there any update of the things that were being done about him/her?

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Dylan June 8, 2011 at 4:04 am

I’ve had several from this guy, and others that are very similar, so annoying. Like many others googling jimguthrie13@gmail.com brought me here – nice post.

Here are the email addresses of the SEO “experts” I’ve seen:
jimguthrie13@gmail.com
jimguthrie14@gmail.com
jesseholden115@gmail.com
miltonlake147@gmail.com
miltonlake654@gmail.com
bellagarza24@gmail.com
scotservais2@gmail.com
nathankyle456@gmail.com
martinbabcock444@gmail.com
beckyjack01@gmail.com
anthonyburgess12@gmail.com
anthonyburgess002@gmail.com
haroldellis3657@gmail.com

And here’s the latest email that brought me here today:
Name: Janice Jacobsen
Address: ,
Email: jimguthrie14@gmail.com
Message: I’ve helped hundreds of companies increase their traffic and I’d love to show you what my service can do for you. I don’t promise the world, I’m straight forward and to the point … I deliver rankings. My rates are completely affordable and I don’t want to oversell you either, I start small and have my clients begging for more. I won’t take on your site unless I know I can deliver rankings. Reply to this e-mail if you have the slightest interest … you’ll never see rankings the same way again.

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N.T. June 11, 2011 at 9:13 am

I got one today from jimguthrie15@gmail.com. This person is driving me crazy. If he/she is indeed an SEO expert, why can’t he/she get potential customers to his or her website via search engines, rather than sending spam?

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Andrew Halliday August 26, 2011 at 3:19 am

Hi

I have just had one of these emails, so thanks for posting this I usually delete striaght away but thought i would copy the email address into google, and see what i get.

Ur blog was number one, I have replied to see what she comes back with, but i do my SEO, i might not work as fast as someone else doing it, but at least i know what im doing and doing it correctly, not quick results that dont last very long.

Regards

Andrew Halliday

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brian fediuk October 8, 2011 at 1:34 am

I do SEO and got this same email. The fact that they use a gmail account is a dead giveaway. If you run a business based on internet services, why oh why would you use GMAIL? Yes, gmail is awesome, but it’s ridiculous that this “professional” uses it for SEO services, let alone a business proposal.

Here is my message that I got:
I’ve helped hundreds of companies increase their traffic and I’d love to show you what my service can do for you. I don’t promise the world, I’m straight forward and to the point … I deliver rankings. My rates are completely affordable and I don’t want to oversell you either, I start small and have my clients begging for more. I won’t take on your site unless I know I can deliver rankings. Reply to this e-mail if you have the slightest interest … you’ll never see rankings the same way again.

and a little more information:
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.23) Gecko/20110920 Firefox/3.6.23 GTB7.1
Host: ABTS-North-Dynamic-101.116.163.122.airtelbroadband.in
IP: 122.163.116.101
Port: 42678

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steff October 22, 2011 at 6:57 am

i got the same message…

I’ve helped hundreds of companies increase their traffic and I’d love to show you what my service can do for you. I don’t promise the world, I’m straight forward and to the point … I deliver rankings. My rates are completely affordable and I don’t want to oversell you either, I start small and have my clients begging for more. I won’t take on your site unless I know I can deliver rankings. Reply to this e-mail if you have the slightest interest … you’ll never see rankings the same way again.

this guy can’t be stopped? what an idiot! at least he should learn to write a decent email before sending out just a stupid message bragging about what incredible skills he has on SEO…

P.S: he sent me the message from this IP address: 122.161.67.2

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Matthew Harper November 23, 2011 at 6:52 am

Seems old Jim is still spamming away! I got the exact same email, his IP was 122.161.62.227 which resolves to New Delhi, Delhi, India using ISP Bharti Broadband. I can’t imagine this lamer gets any business though!

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